kennedy, mandela and abraham lincoln, winston churchill and barak obama in the middle. >> reporter: south africans feel the deep sense of pride about him. i think mandela was like a mirror reflected back to south africans. south africans want to see themselves in his image. i think that is very powerful now, 20 years after the beginning of democracy. it is key politically. is this the key of mandela's investigations, his dreams? south africans are using this time not to say good-bye to the man. it's a rain check of what this country is, are we doing enough in south africa? there is a real intimacy and a sense of we don't want to betray his vision. things are going a little bit off, maybe this is the time to not forget he sacrificed so much. >> it seems like there is a balance of loss, reference and as you say responsibility. >> reporter: absolutely. >> reporter: robin kurnow, thank you so much. she spokes with mandela, understands the politics here so much. we will deep painting the picture of what is happening now. teeing up an epic memorial tomorrow. the world hasn't seen anything like